Sreerekha Shenoy (sresheno)
2010-01-07 09:20:59 UTC
Hi Hadi,
I could see that RFC 3578 has some details of managing ISUP overlap
signaling with SIP enbloc dialing.
This RFC is more so for a PSTN-SIP gateway, not really a pure SIP
endpoint though.
Please let me know if you have got a chance to go through it to see if
it helps in anyways.
Thanks,
Best Regards,
Rekha
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3. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format? (hadi motamedi)
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format? (Vijay Tiwari)
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format? (hadi motamedi)
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format? (Vijay Tiwari)
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:11:52 +0000
From: hadi motamedi <***@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format?
To: ***@ietf.org
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<***@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
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From: "Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco)"
<***@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: "hadi motamedi" <***@gmail.com>, <***@ietf.org>
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Hey Hadi,
You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with just 6
and remaining digits throught NOTIFY.
Thanks, Prasath
________________________________
From: sip-***@ietf.org [mailto:sip-***@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
hadi motamedi
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
To: ***@ietf.org
Subject: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format?
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:54:54 +0000
From: hadi motamedi <***@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: "Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco)"
<***@cisco.com>
Cc: ***@ietf.org
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this
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From: Vijay Tiwari <***@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: "Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco)"
<***@cisco.com>
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Hello All
this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for invite
number in
request URI.
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 07:08:27 +0000
From: hadi motamedi <***@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: Vijay Tiwari <***@gmail.com>
Cc: ***@ietf.org
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<***@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Vijay Tiwari
just 6
Of
digit
They can because they think they can.
Sorry. You mean KPML cannot implement this scenario ?
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:32:48 +0530
From: Vijay Tiwari <***@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: hadi motamedi <***@gmail.com>
Cc: ***@ietf.org
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<***@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello all
yes KPML is not implement into implement this scenario. its only for
DTMF
digits.
Thanks
Vijay
HCL
just 6
Behalf Of
digit
I
6,6,5,9,9,8,3
They can because they think they can.
Sorry. You mean KPML cannot implement this scenario ?
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From: Paul Kyzivat <***@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: Vijay Tiwari <***@gmail.com>
Cc: ***@ietf.org
Message-ID: <***@cisco.com>
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used for this purpose. However there is no standard defined for doing
so.
And its extremely unlikely that one would be defined, because it
requires a different division of responsibility between components than
the sip specs assume. Specifically, to do this, you have to turn the sip
phone into a dumb device, akin to MGCP, with a master that does most of
the work. You need to do this, because you must establish a session with
*something* that will receive the digits, and then eventually decide
when a full number has been entered, and then initiate a call.
Thanks,
Paul
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I could see that RFC 3578 has some details of managing ISUP overlap
signaling with SIP enbloc dialing.
This RFC is more so for a PSTN-SIP gateway, not really a pure SIP
endpoint though.
Please let me know if you have got a chance to go through it to see if
it helps in anyways.
Thanks,
Best Regards,
Rekha
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format? (Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco))
3. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format? (hadi motamedi)
4. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format? (Vijay Tiwari)
5. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format? (hadi motamedi)
6. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format? (Vijay Tiwari)
7. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format? (Paul Kyzivat)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:11:52 +0000
From: hadi motamedi <***@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format?
To: ***@ietf.org
Message-ID:
<***@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
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From: "Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco)"
<***@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: "hadi motamedi" <***@gmail.com>, <***@ietf.org>
Message-ID:
<***@XMB-BGL-412.cisco.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hey Hadi,
You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with just 6
and remaining digits throught NOTIFY.
Thanks, Prasath
________________________________
From: sip-***@ietf.org [mailto:sip-***@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
hadi motamedi
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
To: ***@ietf.org
Subject: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format?
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:54:54 +0000
From: hadi motamedi <***@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: "Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco)"
<***@cisco.com>
Cc: ***@ietf.org
Message-ID:
<***@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at
Hey Hadi,
You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with just
6You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with just
and remaining digits throught NOTIFY.
Thanks, Prasath
------------------------------
Of *hadiThanks, Prasath
------------------------------
motamedi
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
*Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format?
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
Sorry . Can you please do me favor and provide me with more details on*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
*Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format?
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
this
?
Thank you
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:29:03 +0530
From: Vijay Tiwari <***@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: "Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco)"
<***@cisco.com>
Cc: ***@ietf.org
Message-ID:
<***@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello All
this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for invite
number in
request URI.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at
Hey Hadi,
You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with just
6You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with just
and remaining digits throught NOTIFY.
Thanks, Prasath
------------------------------
Of *hadiThanks, Prasath
------------------------------
motamedi
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
*Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format?
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
--*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
*Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit
format?
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
They can because they think they can.
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 07:08:27 +0000
From: hadi motamedi <***@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: Vijay Tiwari <***@gmail.com>
Cc: ***@ietf.org
Message-ID:
<***@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Vijay Tiwari
Hello All
this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for invite
numberthis KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for invite
in request URI.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango -
HCL atOn Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango -
Hey Hadi,
You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with
You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with
and remaining digits throught NOTIFY.
Thanks, Prasath
------------------------------
Thanks, Prasath
------------------------------
*hadi motamedi
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
*Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
*Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
format?
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
--Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
They can because they think they can.
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:32:48 +0530
From: Vijay Tiwari <***@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: hadi motamedi <***@gmail.com>
Cc: ***@ietf.org
Message-ID:
<***@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello all
yes KPML is not implement into implement this scenario. its only for
DTMF
digits.
Thanks
Vijay
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Vijay Tiwari
numberHello All
this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for invite
this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for invite
in request URI.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango -
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango -
Hey Hadi,
You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with
You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with
and remaining digits throught NOTIFY.
Thanks, Prasath
------------------------------
Thanks, Prasath
------------------------------
*hadi motamedi
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
*Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
*Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
format?
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ?
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ?
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
--Thank you in advance
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
They can because they think they can.
They can because they think they can.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:07:13 -0500
From: Paul Kyzivat <***@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one
digit format?
To: Vijay Tiwari <***@gmail.com>
Cc: ***@ietf.org
Message-ID: <***@cisco.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello all
yes KPML is not implement into implement this scenario. its only for
DTMF digits.
It was not *intended* for this, but that doesn't mean it couldn't beyes KPML is not implement into implement this scenario. its only for
DTMF digits.
used for this purpose. However there is no standard defined for doing
so.
And its extremely unlikely that one would be defined, because it
requires a different division of responsibility between components than
the sip specs assume. Specifically, to do this, you have to turn the sip
phone into a dumb device, akin to MGCP, with a master that does most of
the work. You need to do this, because you must establish a session with
*something* that will receive the digits, and then eventually decide
when a full number has been entered, and then initiate a call.
Thanks,
Paul
Thanks
Vijay
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Vijay Tiwari
Hello All
this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for
invite number in request URI.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X
(prelangoVijay
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Vijay Tiwari
Hello All
this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for
invite number in request URI.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X
Hey Hadi,
You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send
inviteYou could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send
with just 6 and remaining digits throught NOTIFY.
Thanks, Prasath
------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks, Prasath
*On Behalf Of *hadi motamedi
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
*Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in
one-by-one digit format?
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is
technically*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM
*Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in
one-by-one digit format?
Dear All
Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is
feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit
format ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as
6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipformat ? I
mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as
6,6,5,9,9,8,3
but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite .
Thank you in advance
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
current sip
developments on the application of sip
--
They can because they think they can.
Sorry. You mean KPML cannot implement this scenario ?
--
They can because they think they can.
------------------------------------------------------------------------current sip
developments on the application of sip
--
They can because they think they can.
Sorry. You mean KPML cannot implement this scenario ?
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They can because they think they can.
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